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Cronoswing (December 5th, 2008 @ 8:07 pm)

idk the signs were there. Puffing smoke like the building appears to be breathing and yellow/gray smoke

adammyer (December 5th, 2008 @ 8:01 pm)

Since I wasn't there this is my theory. Not a backdraft. Kind of smoke explosion/combustion. Before the "event" the smoke looks to be fuel rich (suspended particles of unburned fuel) and pressurized. The smoke at the opening looks to have some fire as it gets to air from the outside. The fire+air+suspended unburned fuel combusted and under pressure of the interior showed the explosion we saw. You sometimes see this on residential if you don't cool the overhead.

ARSONSJFD (December 4th, 2008 @ 9:19 pm)

This fire was never determined to be a backdraft. Thanks to the lawyers we will never know what happened. As far as the Firefighters, they were in front of the building on a direct line of attack with solid bore nozzles. I know this because if you look in the video one firefighter still is sitting on the ground after the smoke clears. It's me and this fire burned for 3 days afterward. 3 people lost their lives but 25 more were saved due to aggressive fire ops by the first due engine.

towerco3 (November 27th, 2008 @ 11:37 pm)

did everyone inside die?

cavwondagainsti69 (November 27th, 2008 @ 3:20 am)

I thought hydraulic ventilation happened from the inside out...and why would anyone use hydraulic vent on a fire that hot in the first place??

cavwondagainsti69 (November 27th, 2008 @ 3:15 am)

or as my instructor says "cooked like a lobster"

fleamarketfan (November 24th, 2008 @ 1:32 am)

completely agree w/ vlaup. the color of the smoke shows that the structure has not been vented sufficiently b/c u see the smoke exiting from holes in puffs (a sort of breathing effect). also, with all the activity going on with teh fire and smoke, im sure that the windows appeared black when viewed from the exterior, which should def tell the guys w/ the white helmets to start pulling everyone back for now

Skrat281 (November 23rd, 2008 @ 12:05 am)

I think I wanna disagree with everyone here. It looks like its already vented. I think the roof or floor came down and sent everything out of the front. I could be wrong though, could very well be a backdraft too.

killerofthesouls (November 20th, 2008 @ 1:36 am)

haha i seen this after it happen cause they sent it to my old cheif so its great

thefirefighter (November 18th, 2008 @ 3:45 am)

u can tell deffinatly a back draft smoke looks like its breathing

vlaup (November 6th, 2008 @ 1:09 am)

greetings....i think its a backdraft....watch the smoke.....its a dark color and it shows oxygen deprivation...and the blast outward...

totalslakr (November 4th, 2008 @ 11:39 am)

definitely a backdraft. The yellow and brown smoke, the funky flow, and the lower level of soot are dead giveaways of imminent backdraft. I have no idea what those guys were thinking.